Clint Curtis: "I said, 'Here you go, and here's a list of what you have to do to make sure you don't get taken advantage of by machines.' and the owner of the company said, 'This isn't really for stopping voter fraud; this is for flipping votes.' But I didn't think they'd be able to use it.
Because who's going to be stupid enough to use a machine where you don't see the source code, and it's going to tell you who won?"